here it is Kelly. Ive been peruzing my system and I think I may have damaged windblows.. even autocad is acting wierd. Ive sent the autocad DWG and DXF files in a single zip. its been a few months since I cut these parts but didnt have any issues with them on older version of Kcam. anouther thing ive noticed is it seems to take forever to load into Kcam. thanks for taking the time.